Upgrading door speakers

Has anyone upgraded the standard door speakers in an Eunos? I want something that will match the headrest speakers and not overpower them. I also have a set of Infinity 6x9 's sat in my garage - can anyone suggest where they'd fit (no silly replies to this) i.e. will they fit in the doors with a small amount of work. (11/99)

The 6x9's will fit in the rear shelf (mk1 that is). You'll need to cut holes in the metal plate though. (11/99)

Several people have replied to my earlier question about fitting 6x9's into a MK1 Roadster. Most have said to put them behind the seats and cut the metal. Has anyone done this? How much gap is there in the shelf above for the magnets to hang in ?? And lastly will it be a lot better (sound) than simply putting good quality speakers in the doors? (11/99)

Open the trunk and have a peek in the tunnel. That's where the magnets will be. Room enough. You'll have good bass, but IMHO too much high just behind your head. I have put some 8in subs in there, together with a good pair of front speakers. Perfect. You could of course put in your 6x9's and if the sound isn't to your liking, cut the little wire to the tweeter/midbass section. (11/99)

The business with speakers comes up continually. I'd just like to remind most about the environment your ears are in. Anything above mid quality range speakers is really a waste of money. Suggest that for what you can actually hear the best result has been achieved with moderate outlay is the biggest speakers that can actually be squeazed into the doors, in a Mk1 I think that is 6 1/2" with minor cutting to suit, if speakers also have tweeters, better still. Then headrest speakers. No metal to cut and the result for the ears is as good as is achievable in the available environment. However, in the final process to a decision what is it you are after, as good a sound as you can listen to, or one that impresses your mates when you are stationary. (11/99)

"Mid-quality" is a bit of a relative term, usually relative to how loaded you are! I have MB Quart 200.3 speakers and a Rockford Fosgate Punch 45.2 amp, costing about 350 quid together. I drive over 25,000 miles a year, mostly with the roof down, mostly at 90mph on motorways. The wind and road noise at that speed is considerable. In order to hear the music, I need lots of volume. Loud music+loud environment=potential hearing damage. As I understand it, there are two major factors that contribute to loss of hearing: bass and distortion. Amount of bass is personal choice, but poor quality speakers/amps generate more distortion, and are therefore more likely to cause hearing damage. Probably :0) (11/99)

New door speakers and amp are now in place and working. This means that a little less than half volume can make the door panels bounce and vibrate like a good 'un. Has anyone ever soundproofed the doors to stop this and get a little better quality sound from their car. The clip on speaker covers (roadster only - UK are different) seem to block a lot of the noise from the speaker (6.5 inch speaker and only a 4 inch grill/hole) so I've left them off for now. They also vibrate when fitted and I think the woofer actually hits them whne the volume is up a bit. What has everyone else done in their cars??? (8/00)

1. sound deadening on the outer door panels
2. check for fit of door card and if speakers can actually hit them - may need spacer to prevent this.
3. make sure speakers are very rigidly attached to door steel
4. I do know of people adding sound-deadening to back of door cards. (8/00)

My Pioneer TS-E1790's have arrived! I know that one hole has to be drilled in the rim of the speaker when replacing the OEM ones, but what do I do about the splash guards? Will they fit on the Pioneers with a bit of stretching with a heat gun, do I need to make up some (a Blue-Peter job with a pair of ice-cream tubs and a bit of mastic?!) or is the collective feeling that they are unnecessary? The inside of the door was moist when I took out the old ones, but the old ones are made of paper... (1/01)

I left them off when I installed my TS-E1790's and have not had any problems so far :) The speakers don't sit under the window so should not get any water on them anyway (my guess). (1/01)

I didn't bother with spash guards, what's the concensus about doing this as I can't afford new ones if these start to rust? (1/01)

what are splash guards? I'm due to fit some new door speakers this afternoon, bought a mounting kit from halfords, but what is a splash guard, can't see one in my door?? (1/01)

When I fitted my speakers (Mac audio) the plastic bit was totally ill fitting, but rather than leave the back of the speaker exposed I bodged the old bit on with some brown tape - it looked a mess but who cares as long as it keeps your speakers dry. (1/01)

Hmm, I'll suppose the old paper speakers would go soggy eventually (ie. the originals), but most speakers these days have plastic cones, which I guess are less affected. On SAZ, I bodged up the old splash guard onto Kenwood speakers. (1/01)

I fitted Pioneer TS E1755's (brilliant at 29 quid) in my '96 model without having to modify the door cover. The original speaker grill works fine. All I had to do was to drill a hole to mount the speaker. (1/01)

When you take the original speakers out, you will find a white plastic tub with cut-outs glued to the back. This stops water, which penetrated the inside of the door from the door glass, making the speakers wet from the inside. Most modern aftermarket speakers are not cardboard, but the Pioneers have metal (steel?) cones, and may therefore be damaged by moisture. (1/01)

I had black guards on my 1996 5, I thing the TS-E1790's are IMPP which I think is a Polypropalene (spl?) cone with a metal coating but I doubt if it is steel. (1/01)

Can anyone with a UK Mark 1 tell me how many screws hold in their speakers. I purchased a speaker bracket from halfords and it nowhere near fits, I only have 3 screws holding in my speakers, this they have suggested to me is because my car is an import. (1/01)

My UK MK1 has 3 screws securing the speakers, and its definitely not an import. Don't Roadsters have 3 screws in as well? (1/01)

Tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine and to get their facts straight before spouting some shite about imports - honestly you'd think they'd been taking lessons from Mazda UK. (1/01)

Right! I'm off to halfords now, three people with UK cars have said 3 screw holes so an import seems in fact to be no different, as I thought. Just wanted to get my facts straight before going back to them. The bracket I have has 4 screw holes and the plastic mounting kit is too small to even be able to drill three holes in it so it has to be completely the wrong kit as a pose to my car being wrong!. (1/01)

Can anyone recommend anything to protect the rear of the door speakers from getting wet? I was adjusting my amp settings yesterday and noticed a strange buzzing from one of the front speakers (Pioneers TSE1790's). I took off the cover and took the speaker out of the door. It was drenched! The rubber cone surround had begun to come unstuck from the paper part that sticks it to the metal frame, and the rear of the metal frame had starting to rust in places too. Is there some form of cover I could use that has gaps to allow the speaker to still use the door innards as the enclosure? (4/01)

Stock speakers have a plastic cover; if you still have these, you should be able to recycle them. Otherwise, apparently the bottom of a 2L Coke bottle works well, Blue Peter style. (4/01)

Polythene? (4/01)

The stock speakers come with a plastic cover to protect the cones from water. When I replaced my door speakers I butchered the plastic covers and taped using brown tape the plastic covers onto the new speakers. If you don't have these original covers I would get a thick plastic bag, cut it down a bit and tape it to the back of your speakers so it houses the top half of them, that way if water falls on them it will just run off. (4/01)

Have seen a couple of 323s in the scrap yard and they have exactly the same speakers, including the water shields, as the MX5. Probably worth a trip to the scrappie - 323s are reasonably common there (4/01)