| I have noticed that the seatbelts in my new VSpec
'5 don't hug against you properly. They "lock" correctly given a
sharp tug to simulate an accident but in normal driving they slowly
slacken until there is about 3 inches of slack instead of staying
tight against you like the old car's did. Where's the best place
to source a new set in tan - Jay or
KA Yu perhaps? (5/00) |
| This describes my V Spec seatbelts exactly. Either we both have
Friday afternoon V Specs or it's a "feature" of them. Do any other
V Spec owners recognise this description before someone spends hard
earned lucre on an identical set? (5/00) |
| My old 92 Silver Roadster was like this as well; maybe this is
a "feature" (5/00) |
| Mine too - must be normal. (5/00) |
| Same again here! (5/00) |
| Yep EXACTLY the same for me ... '92 Black V'Spec I'm used to it
now so I constantly pull up the slack and retighten, but it could
prove a little more dangerous. (5/00) |
| Yes, that's pretty much it for mine too. (late '93 1.8 model)
(5/00) |
| Same here (same model/colour as well - conspiracy theory time!)....but
only the passenger one. Ho hum.... I was thinking this MUST be an
MOT failure (ought to be??) but thinking about it the guy just connects
the seatbelt and yanks....he doesn't check out whether they sit
snugly on Joe Passenger. This must be potentially dangerous though
as you say. (5/00) |
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My roadster has some weird and wonderful modification to the
passenger seatbelt....at least, that's what I'm led to believe
as no one has yet been able to tell me what the heck it is....
Basically, when the engine is switched off (not at any other
time really), the passenger seat belt contracts noticeably against
the body of my surprised (and sometimes thrilled) passenger. The
same does NOT happen to the drivers belt. I've checked the belt
etc but the only thing different I can see, and don't shout at
me if this is totally standard and I'm being stupid! But the 'floor
mounted seatbelt faster' has some wiring outside the main plastic
casing with a connector half way down the wire (not doing a very
good job of explaining this am I?)...
I know that there is probably some wiring inside the catch
so the seatbelt warning flashes on the dashboard at the appropriate
times, but this piece of wiring is outside the casing and definitely
looks like a cowboy job to me. If it helps, I am 99% sure the
car was raced before being imported (due to several tell tale
signs). As racing harness 'hooks' are still in place, it occurred
to me that the seatbelt fastener may have been removed and later
replaced, and the wiring not finished properly, but, why is it
only showing on the passenger side and why the contraction only
on the passenger side?
If the contraction itself was due to a racing measure, surely
it would be on the drivers side? (6/00)
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You asked for theories, so here's mine.
Some Roadsters have seat belt retractors. These are designed
to tighten the belts in the event of a crash. I'm not sure if
they're supposed to tighten when you switch off - it's possible
that they should be permanently live, and someone has changed
the supply to ignition controlled. Look at your auxiliary fusebox
(on the right of the footwell, hidden up inside the trim)
If you have a fuse box with "N035" on the lid, and imagine it
aligned so that the fuse ratings are the right way up, you will
see that you have 3 columns of fuses. In the middle column (3
up from the bottom) there is one fuse rated 10A. Is that fuse
present? It is the fuse that protects the retractors. Try removing
it, and see if you still get the effect. (You may have a completely
different fuse box lid, in which case this will get us nowhere)
If you don't, mystery partly solved. I can then only assume that
the drivers was removed either because the owner didn't like it,
or the retractor failed, or it was disconnected for some reason
in connection with fitting the racing kit. Wonder if that was
street racing in Tokyo? :-) (6/00)
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| Is there an electronic tensioner for the Roadster seat belts
and can it be disabled? I'm asking because the belts on my car always
seem to be slightly loose and the only way to tension them is either
to pull the belt away from the body then let go, or turn the ignition
off. Pulling the belt away tensions them for a short while, but
they soon become loose again. The belts do lock properly, but I
find the looseness quite irratating. I presume others have this
problem (is it a problem)? (11/00) |
| Yes, information passed onto me indicates there is an electric
tensioner (pre-tensioner??), with a fuse located the interior fusebox
(quite obvious when you look at Graingers Workshop Manual, and the
fuse box cover, and see the extra fuse). Removing the fuse disables
the tensioner. My fuse box was marked NA07, and the car is a late
1991 Roadster. Not sure how many other cars have this fitted. (11/00) |
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Yep - it appears to be a "tension releaser".
Removing the fuse disables it - I haven't got it (N001 fuse box),
but if you have a fuse box labelled N007 or N035 (and possibly
others) you have. Actually this fuse box label may refer to a
wiring spec - you will see the same number (I think) on the main
fuse box under the bonnet. The fuse is located in the auxiliary
fuse box (By your right leg, behind the trim).
I haven't had full feedback on what the full effect of removing
this fuse is - I suspect it is fail safe and simply removes the
detensioning function, leaving the seat belt as a normal inertia
reel belt (ie unlocked normally, with spring pressure holding
the belt against your body, but locks up when the car is subject
to G-forces - - cornering, hard braking, --- or crashing!)
Why a detensioner?
I speculate that it is for people who don't like wearing seat
belts - eg in USA and Japan? Maybe it's supposed to make it more
comfortable. I guess it's just unnerving for us.
It is certainly not the same thing as a seat belt pre-tensioner
- eg as used (once?) by Saab and Audi - these contain an explosive
charge which fires when a sensor detects you've just crashed.
The gas released spins the belt reels up tight. At least - I don't
think the Roadster ones contain such a charge. (11/00)
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Apologies for rich text format: this says 'belt'
If you pull the fuse with this script (it's a 10A one, in the
auxiliary fuse box) it will disable the seat belt detensioner.
Not fitted to cars with the N001 fusebox. (11/00)
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Anyone know what the thread size is on the seatbelt bolts
and the seat bolts? Can you get harness eye-bolts easily enough
in a metric size. The only ones I've seen are from Demontweeks
in a 7/16" imperial thread. I want to use either the seatbelt
lower seat-belt mounting points or the seat bolt-in points to
fit the lap-belt and crotch straps of a 6-point TRS harness. Its
either that or drill even more holes into my floorpan (in for
a penny....).
There a few specialist eyebolt suppliers I've come across,
but I wouldn't know exactly which eyebolt is the right one in
an automotive application. (2/02)
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| Seatbelt component bolts are all the same 'standard' which means
that seatbelt components are mostly interchangeable between cars.
I had no problems fitting Sparco harness eye-bolts in place of OEM
seatbelt units. (2/02) |
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