| I have removed my wishbones and other susp parts
for there yearly paint job and have decided to replace the bushes
(they do not look or feel worn, but 160 000 miles of use I feel
its time) I have got a full set of power flex bushes and would like
to know if any one has views or experience of the ride quality if
any, with these bushes installed. (1/01) |
| I'd certainly like to know how you get on with these. Norm Garrett
quotes a Mazda source as saying a suspension rebush is one of the
best tonics you can give the car after 50K miles. I suppose they
might be a bit harsh, ride-wise, but they should improve handling
and steering response. It's an upgrade I'll be thinking about next
year. (1/01) |
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I fitted these bushes to my MX5 about 4 months ago. Made a big
difference, car is more responsive to steering input, soaks up
vibration and harshness better and doesn't crash into potholes
anymore. The steering wheel also deflects much less when a wheel
hits a pothole. FYI my '92 had 68k miles on it at the time and
my OE bushes were definitely shot, the car was becoming very crashy
and unpleasant to drive over anything but smooth road surfaces,
so it must be born in mind that I am comparing shot OE bushes
to the PowerFlex ones. The PowerFlex bushes have improved the
car enormously, it not only feels much more responsive, it also
feels like new again and the suspension doesn't seem any harder.
Replacing old bushes *really* is worth doing when your car gets
past 60k miles, but only if you intend to keep the car a long
time as it is expensive (about 350 to 400 for the bushes alone
and, if you don't do it yourself, Mazda and most other garages
for that matter will charge 8 hours+ labour on top). It's not
a difficult job BTW, but it does take time and elbow grease, there
are 22 bushes in all to be pressed out and the wishbones obviously
have to be removed (front ball joints don't have to be separated,
but it's easier if you do).
I'm very pleased with bushes and you can probably find more detailed
comments by me in the PowerList archives. (1/01)
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Interesting that??
In an engineering sense elastomeric components don't wear or
suffer fatigue type damage. A Durometer reading and torque tensions
today should be almost identical to the day the component was
manufactured, if:
. there is no perishing,
. bond separation, or
. splitting in the rubber of the component.
That is one of the reasons bonded elastomeric components are
used in helicopter main rotor heads.
Though there are many stories about the plastic replacements,
and I have used them in my past four wheel drives, I have found
that that the non rubber polymer bushes are not as forgiving.
The non rubber polymer bushes are cheaper than the rubber components;
yet the actual car makers don't use them. Something to think about???
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One thing is for sure here, and that is that after 8 years exposed
to the elements there will be perishing of the exposed rubber
components. The rubber bushes I took off certainly had visible
surface perishing. A poor comparison I know, but a rubber band
will be of little use after a year or so left exposed to air,
it will have cracked and also permanently stretched if in use
at the time. If the rubber is sealed from the environment and
is not stretched beyond its elastic limit (i.e. doesn't enter
the plastic phase), then you are quite right it should last forever,
but I doubt either of those rules applies to a car suspension
bush. As to the reality of whether or not bushes wear all I can
say is that the car was very much better in all departments after
replacing the bushes. Steering response improved, V&H was down
and the general shuddering and crashing over potholes was much
better damped. There are certain bits of road where the car always
crashed and shuddered, to the point where I would take a particular
line to reduce it. Now all I get now is nice quiet thud noise
and little shuddering. Steering feel has not suffered. I am certainly
not alone in noticing my MX5 becoming 'looser' and more crashy
with age and a subsequent improvement after fitting new bushes.
My car feels like new again, no doubt because road harshness is
being insulated from the cabin better by the new bushes. All this
may be true of simply fitting new bushes to any older MX5, OE
or polyurethane ones, but I can only comment on the improvements
the polyurethane ones made over old worn bushes on my car.
PowerFlex claim the complete opposite of the cost factor, they
quote the production cost of a Polyurethane bush to be 10x that
of a similar rubber component. But then they would;-)
Have a look at the FAQs on their website it's at http://www.powerflex.co.uk/
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