| Apparently power steering was standard from design
of the MX-5, and the non-assisted type was only developed because
of an anticipated demand (which was overestimated) from the US market.
I have only driven '5s with PS so I'm not placed to comment on the
pros and cons of the non-assisted type, but I've never had any complaints
with the PS on my car. There's plenty of feel - certainly loads
more feel than from any other PS-equipped car I've driven. And it
feels wonderfully balanced when zipping through a nice long fast
curve. Did the early UK '5s have PS as standard? (2/00) |
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No, although it was a factory fit option I think. My 1996 MK1
1.6i certainly did not have power steering. It also had stock
14" alloys; despite the lack of assistance my wife found it dead
easy to park and manoeuvre.
I must admit, I prefer the steering on the MK2 - it feels faster
and more responsive than the non assisted rack. And, yes, I agree,
there is loads of feedback through the wheel. Not driven a MK1
with PAS so I can't comment on that, I'm afraid. (2/00)
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Did the early UK '5s have PS as standard?
Yep, and leccy windows.
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No, although it was a factory fit option I think. My 1996
MK1 1.6i certainly did not have power steering.
Ah, but I meant the *really* early cars, as in the first ones
into the country. Just answered my own question - checked on Mike
Hayward's specifications pages (http://freespace.virgin.net/mx5.mike/specs.html)
- seems power steering was standard on the 1.6 (and all specials)
right through until the 1.8 was introduced, at which point it
was deleted and became standard on only the 1.8iS.
Has *anyone* out there got a Mk1 114bhp 1.6 (pre May '94) without
power steering? (2/00)
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| Power steering WAS standard on early Mk 1. By '96, you had to
pay extra for goodies like that. (2/00) |
| But then they introduced it as standard on the 1.8i (as well as
the 1.8is) about 6 months before the MKII was introduced (I have
a Feb 1998 1.8 with power steering). (2/00) |
| Is it the 'Classic 1.8i' special (all were black apparently) as
listed on Mike's spec pages, or a regular 1.8? Mazda may have stopped
producing any cars with non-assisted steering on the production
line, hence Mazda UK's generosity in making power steering standard
may have actually been forced on them! (2/00) |
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No, its a regular 1.8. I needed power steering (had an op. on
my shoulder & the non-power steering version was too heavy). After
a fair amount of reserch the options were: -
original 1.6 (by "original", I mean before they introduced the
1.8 and lower spec 1.6)
- 1.8is, of which there aren't many around and they were more
costly
- special edition (again, more costly - although I almost bought
a California - kind of regret not doing)
- late MKI 1.8i
I did try a 1.8i without PS and was surprised at just how heavy
it felt for the size of car. I could have got a "Classic" special
edition, but it was £3000 more (ouch) - beautiful car though -
black with wood trim. (2/00)
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| I dont have PAS on my '96, dont find any problems with the steering
although 2 years back when I moved from a Rover 820 it was a bit
of a shock to have "heavy steering". Its the usual case of steering
is easy so long as car is rolling, and seeing as the steering should
not be turned while stationary anyway there is no problem. (2/00) |
| When my car idles and I turn the steering wheel the revs drop..is
this normal? (4/00) |
| My Rovers both used to do this as well, probably as the power
steering pump takes some power from the engine as the wheels turn.
I always thought that it was not good for the tires or steering
to turn the wheels when stationary anyway. Don't have the problem
now as I don't have power steering :) (4/00) |
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Is this normal?
No. There is a pressure sensor on the power steering pump which
tells the ECU to raise the idle when high pressure is present.
Probably the base idle setting on your 5 is set too low. That
means the idle speed control valve is open nearly all the time
to maintain a proper idle, and thus the ECU has no way to compensate.
Check the base idle setting. (4/00)
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| It could also be that the ECU is not being told about the power
steering being used. The ECU is told about many electrical things
so it can keep the idle up when the engine is loaded. You will need
t o run the ECU diagnostics to find out if this is the case. My
idle speed goes up (just a tad) when I use the power steering at
idle. (4/00) |
| Anyone with problems like these which involve sensors possibly
not working should get John Cookson's diagnostic manual from Donutz.
That's all the advertising I'll give John today. (4/00) |
| I'm not sure it discusses testing this sensor. If I could find
it I'd check! (4/00) |
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Actually, I don't think there is a sensor on the PS. Some Mazdas
(the 626 GT of 87-92 for example) did have an "idle-up" facility
which increased idle speed when you put pressure on the steering
pump and hence the engine.
I think the MX-5 just does it through the idle speed control
- ie the ECU senses the drop in revs caused by the extra load
from the pump, and corrects the idle speed through the ISC valve.
At least on early cars. And I might be wrong.
Of course, the ISC system must be spot on for this to work. Idle
speed droop can be corrected by resetting base idle in 99% of
cases. It does need resetting from time to time, and it's easy
to ignore because the ECU/ISC control masks any misadjustment
most of the time. (4/00)
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And I might be wrong.
You are. Check out the wire attached to the top of the power
steering pump.
If the idle speed requires frequent readjustment, it is a good
indicator that something is not in top condition. (4/00)
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| There is a PS sensor .. Terminal 1P ... open when turning .. closed
when stationary ... so it knows and increases the fueling... hence
the rpm rises .. otherwise it would stay the same. (4/00) |
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Instructions for adjusting PAS / AC drive belt - based on
banging my thumb last night.
NB don't turn the adjuster until you have loosened the pivot
bolt and lock bolts.
1. By lossening two jublie type clips, remove the bit of black
pipe that goes from the air filter past the front of the engine.
It doesn't take long and makes the rest easier.
2. looking at the front of the engine, from the front, the belt
runs horizontly from the crank pully, right to a pully and then
up to pully and back diagonaly to the crank. First you need to
lossen the main pivot bolt, which you can see by looking through
the slots on the top pully. You need to loosen this - either by
spending ages trying to get a tool in past the slot to undo the
nut, or alternatively, find the blot head at the back which is
much easier to get at :-). It is 14mm btw
3. Just above the top pully you'll see the adjuster. There are
two lock bolts to loosen here (can't remember if they are 14 or
12).
4. With those three bolts loosened, you can now wind up the adjuster
(clockwise) to tighten the belt or as you gone this far, why not
loosen it and whip on a new belt :-)
You can get the belt on-line from http://www.mx5-parts.co.uk
or go to an autofactors and ask for a 4PK0955 (If you have PAS
& AC) NB Halfords will try and sell you a 4PK0850, which is fine
if you have PAS but not PAS & AC, and the one in Bracknell doesn't
stock a 4PK0955. Personlly mate, if you read this and look in
the engine bay and it doesn't make sense, then buy the Rod Granger's
book. The pictures make it a lot clearer :-) (9/01)
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