| Apologies if this has come up loads of times before,
but at my last service they said the cat heat shield is corroded.
That was about 5000 miles ago and just recently there's been an
awful resonating noise just over 2600 revs. Could this be the cat
heat shield and, if so, is anything sinister about to happen to
anything or can I ignore it (which is difficult, it's so loud) until
the next service? Has anyone tried a self fix for a loose CHS? (3/00) |
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I get a similar resonating noise at about 3600 rpm. To get rid
of it I removed my Cat shield, but it wasnt that. I think its
actually the manifold heat sheild in (look at the engine, where
the zorst attaches to the right hand side as you look under the
bonnet) Bit of alloy with a dont touch symbol (this is the manifold
heat shield). Im thinking of removing this to see if this gets
rid of the noise.
If I were you I'd get someone to stand near the car and then
see if you can determine between the two of you where the noise
is coming from. I know people who have binned both sheilds without
harm. (3/00)
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| Any rattling noise (underneath) is likely to be a heat shield.
My cat heat shield did the same 18 months ago. Took it to a tyre
place on spec & they did a quick braising / solder job for a fiver.
It's still fine. (3/00) |
| I had a bad resonant vibration when I accelerated gently from
40 mph in 4th gear. I was told that the two hood drain pipes that
run either side of the rear axle and come out just in front of the
rear wheels vibrate during acceleration and this caused the exact
same sort of noise that you describe. My dealership did a modification
under warranty which has completely cured the problem. If you look
under the car you can see these pipes. (3/00) |
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Is this a metallic vibra-noise? I get one from 2600 to 3000 revs
which really annoys me. It started a few days ago. I thought it
was at the back box of the zorst (to coin a phrase), but on saturday
I was fiddling with a (I'm sooo technical) 'thin heat-shield-like
tinny cover' at the bottom of the downpipes, after a technical
diagnosis with head hanging out of driver's, door neck on sill,
blipping the throttle.
It's not the manifold heat shield with don't touch symbol, but
appears to be another little shield where the pipes meet the exhaust.
It seemed to stop the noise for a while...It started up again
after about 20 miles. Maybe I didn't lever the metal cover away
from the pipes far enough....I have been considering wrapping
something around it to hold it tight. (3/00)
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| I keep reading about the removal of damaged heat shields. Am
I the only one who thinks Mazda would never fit expensive bits like
this if they didn't have a fairly critical purpose? I can't see
it's climate related, as exhausts get just as hot whether you're
in Texas or Barnsley. Any opinions? (Does anyone get very warm feet
without the heat shields? ;-) ) (3/00) |
| I thought the heat sheild was just there to stop you burning your
hands on the very hot manifold and to tidy up the look of the engine.
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Don't get confused, here, folks. There are at least 3 heat shields.
1) On the exhaust manifold. That's the one I don't have
(re Simon) 'cos I've got a non-standard manifold and it doesn't
fit (and was thrown away long before I got the car). That one
does stop you burning your fingers (or at least instantly charring
them), it tidies up the engine compartment and it reduces underbonnet
temperatures near your air intake. My manifold is wrapped in special
heat-wrapping (see Demon Tweeks) to reduce temperatures (even
though I have my own design CAI).
2)The cat heat shield. Located, surprisingly enough, just
above the cat - that's about by the handbrake lever. I've still
got mine - it's in surprisingly good nick, and I imagine without
it the transmission tunnel by the handbrake would get even hotter
than it does anyway. It is well worthwhile taking steps to reduce
temperatures of the tunnel - make sure the intermediate gear shift
boot (the rubber one under the leather one) is intact, and the
base of it is flat and contacting the tunnel all round (it tends
to get rucked up). Demon Tweeks sell expensive heat insulation
sheet - it's a good idea to line as much of the tunnel as you
can get at with it - it goes under the carpet, shiny side to the
metal. Concentrate on the left, where the exhaust pipe is - that's
where most tunnel heat comes from. Summer is coming! :-)
3)The silencer heat shield - under the boot floor, and
just above the main silencer. Likewise, without it, I reckon you
could leave a chicken to slow roast in the boot. So - none of
them are vital, and all of them can vibrate if they corrode or
a bolt comes loose, but civilised sports cars are not supposed
to roast you any more (ah! for the Austin-Healey 3000 ;-) ) (3/00)
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| I noticed the rear exhaust heat shield last week for the first
time while polishing the exhaust tip. Mine looks to be in a bad
way although it may just be dirt. I get an annoying buz at about
3000 revs, the Mazda dealer put a jubilee clip on the cat heat shield
to stop this buzzing. Any idea what else could be causing this ?
Have to get the rust killer out and have a go at the rear heat shield
I guess to. (3/00) |
| Ah yes - there are more shields on the cat itself (rather than
fixed to the body) and on the exhaust pipe behind the cat (on some
cars). These can start to detach themselves from their fixings and
start to rattle or "ziss" - you can generally fix these with a jubilee
clip - for a while at least. Sometimes things become detached inside
the cat or silencers - you can't really do anything about them except
fit new components. Finding things which vibrate at particular speeds/revs
can be very frustrating! (3/00) |
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My manifold is wrapped in special heat-wrapping (see Demon
Tweeks) to reduce temperatures (even though I have my own design
CAI).
.. bad feedback about wrapping manifolds on miata.power .. they
could not take the heat and 'burnt out' .. I guess accelerated
corrosion due to elevated temps .. just a warning. (3/00)
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Here are at least 3 heat shields.
Four. In addition to the three mentioned above there is a fourth
one on the stock exhaust. It is fitted to the exhaust (not the
car) where it goes under the back axle. It is held on with three
clips. If you have changed your exhaust you probably don't have
this one. One half of this heat shield started vibrating last
year on my car. Before I found out it was the problem it fell
off. I have had no ill effects yet.
Like others say, I think Mazda put them on for a reason. However
I don't know what the reason is yet because there seem to be an
awful lot of MX-5s running about with missing heat shields and
no problems yet. (3/00)
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