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Being a bit of a 'Top-Down' freak I don't
see the real appeal of hard tops, why do you guys bother? If it's
to have better visibility heated glass rear windows are available
for just over 200. And I can't see the benefit in doing it for
a quiet journey since the MX-5 (Roadster) can never pretend to
be comfortable so why try?
Putting the top up on mine is so rare I feel claustrophobic
and can hear ever single rattle which is bloody annoying. Still
the absence of wind noise makes it feel like a Rolls Royce.
I'm not taking the wee or anything but I just wondered if
people would mind explaining why they have or want hardtops. (11/99)
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| This brings an interesting point up. I've got a red hard top,
but I really need a new hood, preferably with a glass HRW. My finances
at the moment preclude me from buying a new hood, but if I sold
the hard top.... Let's have some thoughts on the pros & cons of
hard tops then. I know they look good (mine's fitted as I write),
but do they offer any huge advantage over say, a mohair hood with
a GHRW? (11/99) |
| My bro (who wants a hardtop) lives in Glasgow and parks near town
so the hardtop will hopefully help keep his 5 out of the hands of
the less desirable elements. (11/99) |
| Yes that protects the hood but not the car. All a would-be twocker
has to do is smash the quarter light and they are in. Or even easier
(probably!), just stick a screw driver in the lock. (11/99) |
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Shall we do a pros and cons section?
Ok I'll start with Hardtops:
PROS:
MX-5's look at their best with a hard top on.
Quieter
Protects hood from the worst of the weather
Superior 3/4 visibility
Nicer ambience inside with interior light and possible headlining???
CONS:
Not as flexible as Britain's changeable weather
Expensive
Difficult to store
Requires two normal human beings to remove (I'm aware we do have
some big strong brutes out there though!) You bought a convertible
so why are you driving a coupe?
Mohair with HGRW
PROS:
The same flexibility as a bog standard softtop
Rear screen will not deteriorate
Rear screen is now covered under the 'Glass Excess' of your insurance
policy. £50 and doesn't affect your no-claims?
No need to store or remove after fitting
CONS:
Noisy compared to hardtop
Not as pretty
A bit 'unfinished' looking on the inside
How did I do? Bearing in mind I have no experience of either
please feel free to tell me I am a twonk and way off the mark.
(11/99)
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| I can't really think of anything extra to add to your list, and
to be truthful, I'm not even sure I could say it was a good idea
to buy it, especially as I paid full Mazda dealer price, but I can
say that from my study window, my little beauty looks fabulous!
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The rear 3/4 visibility is much better with a hardtop than the
hood. I rarely bother trying to look over my shoulder when I've
got the soft top up - all I can see is vinyl.
Order of preference:
1. hood down
2. hard-on (oo-er)
3. soft-up
All my friends say that my 5 looks better with the hard-top on than
the vinyl roof. (11/99) |
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PROs for Hardtops =================
Imagine a sunny, calm day in January - not a cloud in the sky,
and you're all wrapped up warm and dry. The roads are clear and
safe, no ice, no snow. But, it's too cold to drop and fold the
top. Bummer. What do you do ? If you had the hardtop on, just
slip it off, drive off into the hills for a couple of hours, come
back to the house, put the top back on. Presto ! Smiles all the
way. That's why I have a hard-top. And believe me, we do get a
fabulous week of sunshine every cold January, and I just itch
to get the lid off. With the hardtop, it's a cert. They come off
easily when you fancy some top down motoring
Security
Stiffen the chasis for more road holding
Offer better acident protection
PROs for Softops ================
Rain stops. Unzip window. Flip down roof. Get going again... Elapsed
time: 10 seconds.
CONs for Hardtops =================
Rain stops. Sun comes out. Sh!te. Simmer under the fibreglass.
CONs for Softtops =================
Can't fold it when it's too cold. (11/99)
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| I don't believe it gets that cold in this country to really cause
a soft top any problems; if it is a bit frosty, run up the heater
for a few miles before lowering to thaw it out (after all, the soft
top is hardly known for its insulative properties). The air temperature
might be low, but you always notice that the roof is wet; probably
its actual temperature is above 4 Celcius.. Now in central continental
climes like in Germany or North America, it can get seriously cold
(ever driven a Bronco with a frozen slush box?), and I suppose problems
can occur. But not here. (11/99) |
| IMHO a hardtop removes any trace of practicallity the car may
have. When I go away for a few days the rear shelf is crammed with
a large holdall and other smaller bags, which just could not be
there with the soft top folded down - it would wreck the plastic
window. Sometimes it seems that there's more room for stuff on the
shelf than in the boot. I've also carried items which wouldn't fit
in the average saloon, by zipping out the window much timber and
piping has been transported home laying from the passenger footwell
and sticking out through the back. (11/99) |
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Bought my MX5 in July and enjoyed most days with the top down
but started to get a bit chilly at the end of September soooo
- I went to Portobello Road Market and bought myself a sheepskin
flying jacket with a big collar. So now I can - and do - drive
at every possibly opportunity with the hood down and I'm snug
and warm. Who needs a hard top?
By the way, when I bought my car there was another one on the
forecourt with a hard top and they would have sold it to me for
£800 but since I was already paying more for a five-year-old car
than I would have done for a brand new Honda and I would have
had to have it re-sprayed, I declined - and I'm glad that I did.
However, in answer to an earlier mail, yes, you could well be
able to get a hard top from a second hand car dealer. It doesn't
hurt to ask. (11/99)
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| I love driving my 5 with the top down. Can't think of a better
way to travel. But..... my journey consists of a 32 mile hike to
the Heathrow area. Possibly on the M25. At times (all right once
or twice this year) I have touched 85mph for more than two minutes.
Uncomfortable with the top down in winter. In the summer I use the
lanes, it's great. But in the winter lanes plus top down = sludge
in car. So this year, my third year with a 5, I treated myself to
a hardtop. It's like having two cars. Looks great and the rear vision
is almost as good as having the top down. At the end of the day,
there is no rule to say you must drive with your top down, each
to their own. I like having my cake and eating it and I can get
the top off in around 5 minutes or less. So what's the big deal?
(11/99) |
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