| Does anyone know how to remove the lock
bit from the driver's door. I mean the key cylinder (about 3/6 inch
diameter) not the whole lock. I need to take the cylinder out of
my damaged door and put it into the hole in my second-hand door
so I can keep the same key. Does it need a special tool or is there
a trick? (11/99) |
| The workshop manual has no instructions, just pictures. Take the
door to bits, remove the whole lock assembly, then the outer handle
and key cylinder can be separated - it must be obvious or it would
be explained. It looks as if the cylinder is retained by a crinkle
washer. (11/99) |
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The lock on my driver's side door has started
jamming (in the 'getting stuck' sense, as opposed to the 'Bob
Marley' sense). The key turns fully, and makes the usual springy
click noise as though the lock is opening - but the door remains
locked. The black knob thing on the internal door handle only
slides about 3/4 of the way across and won't go any further. After
repeatedly locking/unlocking the door it eventually opens. This
weekend I'm going to take the door trim off to see if anything
is catching on the lock mechanism. Has anyone had similar problems,
and is there anything I should check for? (The car is a Mk1 without
central locking.)
In the meantime, if the lock gets stuck again what would
be the 'coolest' (I hate that word) way of getting into the car?
Should I :-
(a) climb across from the passenger side with all the grace of
an inebriated elephant;
(b) paint '01' on the door and climb through the window;
(c) open the softtop and do a sort of long jump by running up
and over the boot (ignoring the fact that I exceed its load bearing
capacity by about 80Kg) and then leap into the drivers seat. (11/99)
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| I have a Mk1 and the driver side lock is a bit dodgy too. It doesn't
get completely stuck (yet) but takes a bit of wiggling to lock or
unlock. I was going to try some WD40 but it will be interesting
to see what you find when you look inside. (11/99)(11/99) |
| You could go to a scrap yard to get a full set of locks - both
doors and boot, then replace the whole lot otherwise you end up
with 2 keys. dunno cost, cue Jay Ng???(11/99) |
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I have the same problem with my drivers side doorlock. Sometimes
it refuses to unlock. Very embarrassing when people see you trying
frantically to get in your own car and you end up climbing in
through the roof or passenger side.
The problem seems to be a tiny spring inside the lock mechanism
itself. Mines broken off and it looks like I would need a new
lock to fix the problem as I cannot reach the spring to replace
it. However, the lock doesn't stick all the time, just now and
again and I've sussed out that if you keep turning the key and
pulling the handle eventually it will unlock.
Frustrating I know but I don't fancy having to replace my lock
just for that little spring. Unless someone has any better ideas?(11/99)
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a full set of locks
and ignition!(11/99)
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| what about swapping both locks? should be doable.(11/99) |
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This weekend I'm going to take the door trim off to see
if anything is catching on the lock mechanism.
Have you taken the trim off before? If not here's quick guide.
Remove the three screws from the armrest (one is hidden behind
a plug). Pull off the speaker surround. Remove the screw from
behind the internal door catch and remove the catch surround.
Pop off the trim at the bottom and sides and then lift it clear.
Watch out for the black gorilla snot - nasty stuff! I can now
do this in about one minute! One inside you should be able to
see the problem and fix it with some bending of bars and lubrication.
I use silicone for most of these types of jobs.(11/99)
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There would be six locks to replace in total.:-
Driver's door;
Passenger's door;
Ignition;
Boot;
Glove box;
and the lock for the petrol catch and boot catch section.
I don't really fancy that job!(11/99)
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Pull of the speaker surround
This is not necessary on later Mk1's
Watch out for the gorilla snot
Good name for it - it gets everywhere if you get it on your hands,
and it's hard to wash off. When I got the dealer to adjust my
windows on warranty, they stuck a load more snot all over the
place, including on the edges of the door trim - it's taken me
ages to clean it all away.(11/99)
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| Why not swap driver and passenger locks? If this works then it
seems like a good solution - who needs a working passenger lock!
(11/99) |
| Ask Santa for a remote central locking kit? Alternatively, when
I had a faulty lock on my Honda the dealer was able to replace it
with one with the same key code without any problem. I think the
code was inscribed on the lock barrel. (11/99) |
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I had exactly this problem on my Mk 1 recently. The lock would
open only if you pulled the handle at the same time. I eventually
sorted it out last weekend in only about half-an-hour. Mine has
retrofitted central locking but the basic original mechanism is
still in place - the actuator is attached by a clamp to the operating
bar connecting handle to door lock. I took the armrest and handle
trim off; the panel then just unclips after the loudspeaker surround
has been unclipped first. The panel by the way was rusted along
the bottom where there was a steel strip now turned to dust...
I then started oiling everything accessible (without removing
the transparent plastic sheet) using ordinary oil. The mechanism
became significantly freer when I lubricated the handle mechanism
so I suspect the problem was mainly there. I also oiled the window
guides at the same time and the (electric) window now goes up
and down much better - I'll have to get around to doing the other
side too.
By the way I partly knew what I was doing after locking the keys
in the boot (early 5's don't have a remote release) and waiting
four hours for firstly an unsuccessful attempt at breaking in
by the AA and a locksmith (I suppose that proves something!),
followed by disassembly of the door by the locksmith to extract
the lock barrel and make a replacement key. I'd locked the keys
in when I stopped to polish the car on the way to Billing last
year!!! (11/99)
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Why not swap driver and passenger locks?
If this works then it seems like a good solution - who needs a
working passenger lock!
Chances are there's a left & right lock. (11/99)
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I think the code was inscribed on the lock barrel.
Or a Mazda dealer can look on their computer and get your key
code from the chassis number. (11/99)
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Yep, sounds like a problem I have too. I got this problem since
my car had a respray, and I guess the people who did it removed
the lock &.... Completely. I have an alarm-remote-cental locking
thing, when I want to open it (the drivers door) by pressing my
remote, I hear a click (sometimes a little louder then normal).
With the loud click, the door is open. The pasengers door always
opens, no problem. I removed the door trimm (is that how you call
that inside?) and locked & unlocked the door. I know the problem,
the motor (servo?) that moves the bar in the door moves everytime
like it should, but sometimes not enough to unlock the door &
yes, this can be (rarely for my- touch wood) a real problem, sometimes
I can't get in!! I'm wondering how strong is a genuine mazda key?
Mine is a little bended, maybe someday I break it, trying to open
the door by key, and then the mx5 is gonna leave me stranded!!
I know a way to open the car when it is locked, I'm not gonna
tell the list, so every owner can sleep on both ears.
An advice? Check the little bar, see if it moves, if it does,
good luck, I didn't repair mine & the expert I know in the club
who stripped my car for the respray couldn't fix it eather. Its
just a bad alarmsystem, I guess. But no way I'm gonna replace
it!. I'd rather buy a new softtop (I'm planning to wait 'till
it's totaly worn) Good luck, it's hard to look at the lock in
that door inside! (11/99)
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I know the problem, the motor (servo?) that moves the bar
in the door moves everytime like it should, but sometimes not
enough to unlock the door & yes, this can be (rarely for my- touch
wood) a real problem, sometimes I can't get in!!
If you want to try a new servo I found the Maplin 7.99ukp motor
was a direct drop-in replacement for mine. But as all these things
are aftermarket you may need to do some bending and bolting. (11/99)
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| Thanks to everyone who sent me emails about checking the doorlocks.
After taking the door trim off it took about half an hour to get
the lock to fail so I could see what was going wrong - then it took
me another hour to get the door unlocked again!! I gave all the
moving parts a good squirt of oil, checked for anything snagging
on the mechanism, etc. but the fault seems to be in the inaccessible
bit near the door catch. Others on the list tell me they've had
the same problem with this part of the lock and been unable to fix
it, so I decided to just go ahead and order a replacement. (Just
had to quote the lock number from the little metal tag on the keyring
I got when I bought the car.) (11/99) |
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Chances are there's a left & right lock.
Nope you can swap locks L->R->L OK. (on a mk1 anyhow) I had to
do this when some scum tried to nick the 'lego racer' last year
If someone tries it again I'm gonna have to go in through the
roof (11/99).
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| It just goes to show the mentality of the average car thief -
trying to break into a soft-top car by forcing the door lock.(11/99) |
| After encountering the "black gunk from hell", with some difficulty
I got my hand on the barrel from inside the door - James Herriot-styleee.
But now I'm stuck...no, not literally! There seems to be a large
3/4 circlip holding the barrel in place from above i.e. with the
open end facing the bottom of the door. It's proving difficult to
get any purchase on the circlip coming at it from inside the door.
There's a 2cm hole in the inner door frame right in line with the
barrel/circlip. Are you supposed to attack the circlip through this.
Also, how do you release the locking rod from the barrel? (2/00) |
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It's quite easy to get the circlip off, much more difficult to
get it back on!!! A pair of thin neck pliers will get the circlip
off but there is a better way of tackling this job ;-)
You mentioned the 2cm hole... Get a 1/4" ratchet/socket set,
you'll need a 10mm socket and extension out of this.
1. Unclip the vertical rod that is connected to the lock itself.
2. Undo both the nuts that retain the handle/lock mechanism to
the door. You can see one of them by shining a light at the mechanism
and staring through that 2cm hole that you mentioned. The other
nut is on the left hand side of the mechanism.
3. You should now be able to pull the handle/lock mechanism from
the outside. You'll only have about a 4"-5" gap to play with cos
there are another rod still connected, you don't need to remove
the whole handle so best to leave the other rod connected to save
time.
4. You should now be able to remove the circlip and replace within
30 seconds :-)
Something else I should add. If you don't want to suffer the
wrath of the " Devil Gum", get hold of a small stanley type knife
or a scalpel. Pull a corner of the plastic cover until you can
use the knife on the black gum and cut your way through. It's
nice and cold this time of the year so you can get a clean cut
through the gum. When it's time to put the plastic cover back
on, line up the gum and press. You'll find that it's a lot neater
finish ;-) (2/00)
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| Hi all after having to get in and out of wheeeely white all
day yesterday by climbing in and out like Bo from the Dukes of Hazard
due to my door refusing to open I have to-night managed to get the
door panel off and flick the catch to open the door.On the catch
there is a small return spring which is broken.Has anybody else
had this problem and can you buy just the spring on its own all
help appreciated. (9/00) |
| I had exactly this problem when i first got my Roadster. Very
embarrassing, Iwas climbing in from the drivers and over the gear
knob. Initial 'quick' fix Itried was a couple of elastic bands that
lasted a year before going brittle and braking. Luckily we have
a box of springs at work and I re-engineered one to fit. Can you
take the good one from the other side to a motor factor? They should
stock a good range. (9/00) |
| The Driver door lock on my '5 seems only to open if the key
is inserted one way. The other way doesn't do 'nowt. Is this a problem
with the lock/key or a design of the car? (10/00) |
| Mine opens either way - it's most likely a worn key - assuming
you have all three of the original keys, have you tried the others?
- if you've only got copies of originals, that where your problem
might lie. Have you tried the passenger door and boot locks? - if
they're working it might be a lock problem. Cheapest solution is
actually to fit central locking rather than replace the locks methinks?
(10/00) |
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Sounds like the lock has been worn by the key (means they've
both worn together). Mines the same on the ignition. Bad news
is a dealer cut new key from the barrel code won't work.
Good news is a decent lock smith should be able to cut you one
(lock smith not shoe place that happens to cut keys - I tried
3 of those and the keys wouldn't turn)
Got mine done for 3.50 and he the reset the machine though to
cut it over sized. I use the copy every day and its not stiff
anymore. (10/00)
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| I am having an intermittent fault occuring with my driver's
side door lock i.e. I can't get in or out. 50% of the time it works
fine but then... The resistance and sound of the mechanism is the
same inside or out, whether the lock has decided to work or not
to work and the resistance felt on the handles is also the same.
I have taken the lock out, greased it, it looked in perfect condition
and put it back in, however it is still doing it. Has anyone encountered
this problem before? of is it just a case of buy a new mechanism?
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| theres a little tension spring ( about 25 mm long 4mm Dia. ) in
there that resets mechanism .If its broken / missing turning key
doesn't do anything .. good luck , it took weeks before I discovered
this as being my problem , hope its yours aswell ,takes about 10mins
to repair ,,IF you have right sized replacement spring 4 hands ,telescopic
and microscopic eye balls and surgeons hands ! (4/01) |
| Check the striker plate adjustment (where the door actually latches
onto the door post) . Sounds like it's too tight to let the catch
actually disengage after it's been released by the handle being
pulled. I don't know exactly how it works on the mazda, but you
can normally adjust it by loosening the bolts on the striker plate,
jiggling and re-tightening. These bolts are normally very tight,
and for the sake of safety you may want to find their correct torque
setting before doing this. As an experiment, if the door won't open,
try pushing/pulling it INWARDS, if there's a loud click you should
be able to open it. (4/01) |
| microscopic didnt mean really small eyes - just the ability to
see really small things ... I know how exact you have to be on this
list !! (4/01) |
| You're a bl00dy genius, this is exactly what it was, the locating
tail had broken off, I simply re-modelled the spring and hey presto
it works. Well, I would not have spotted the spring as it had falled
off and was stuck in some grease at the bottom of the door, it hit
the grease and stuck instead of falling out of one of the drain
holes.:0) (4/01) |
| On my 91 car, the drivers side door lock has lost the little
metal thing flap that moves out of the way when you enter the key.
I would assume it is there to stop water ingress to the door lock.
I'm worried that with this missing when winter comes the lock will
freeze up. Is this piece of metal likely to still be in there somewhere
if I take the lock apart and can it be re-fitted, can I buy a new
lock surround and fit my existing lock into it, or am I going to
have to resort to sticking a strip of insulation tape over the hole
and move it every time I unlock the car. (6/01) |
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Try some proper lock lubricant/de-icer. My Mazda's fine but the
one on the bike has stuck in the nearly-open position so yours
could still be there
p.s. or you could do what a previous owner did to my Subaru -
take the door locks out - I just hope the battery doesn't run
down (though the hatch still has a lock...) - and someone's tried
to screwdriver the bolt head too - I know because I painted them
out black and there're scratched... - does a screwdriver _really_
work? (6/01)
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