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Im trying to find out if there is any kind
of 'known' problem with brakes on the new style MX5 ? I ask because
2 days ago, my wife had an accident where she had left our house
and driven 50 yards the junction but when she applied the brakes
(twice) they did nothing and she went straight into a hedge. She
cannot have been moving at more than 10-15 mph so she was not
hurt and the car doesnt seem to bad either.
The repair centre says they have found nothing wrong so far
with the brake but she is understandably nervous about driving
the car again unless a problem is identified. (11/99)
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| I had a similar occurrence after I jet washed my Roadsters Wheels.
It felt as if the brakes had gone altogether! A few light braking
maneuvers and all was well again... The Price you pay for 4 disc
brakes? (11/99) |
| .. sticking brakes somewhere .. I have known this on the last
generation of Fiestas .. in that case brake servo rubber diaphragm
stuck to the back shell on cold mornings at first couple of applications
.. if you applied the pedal hard it worked .. trouble is 90% of
people do not apply pedals hard enough anyway .. that is why Mercedes
etc have 'Brake assist' where the brakes self apply themselves to
get the ABS etc up to maximum effect .. more a question of applying
pressure .. the brakes are exceeding unlikely to actually fail to
stop .. just a change in characteristics which makes you unconfident
.. learn to lock the wheels in the dry on a straight clear road
first .. and be prepared to use that much force first thing in the
morning. (Fiesta option is unlikely as it was UK design which missed
a component for simplicity .. Japanese do not .. but cold weather
+ rubber getting stiff probably had something to do with it).(11/99) |
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I too would be worried if the brakes died and the garage could
find nothing wrong. So some questions;
What time of day was this?
Is the car kept in a garage?
Had the car just been washed?
Was this the first time she used he brakes after setting off?
Do you have ABS?
Did she drive though any deep puddles?
Was the road 'slippy' when your wife got out of the car (black
ice??)?
Was the weather frosty?
I think the problem was condensation/water on the discs. If the
car is kept outside and it was first thing in the morning this
is possible. If this was the case the accident would have to have
been after the first time she tried the brakes since setting off.
The water will have stopped the pads gripping the discs. When
the garage had a look the water had dried up so there was nothing
wrong. If this is the problem then the best thing to do is to
try the brakes after moving off, and before you need them. If
they don't bite then keep the pedal pressed until they do.
Have you ever noticed the brakes are a little ineffective before,
especially first thing in a morning? This could support this theory.
The only alternative I can think of is black ice on an untreated
road. If this was the case, and you have ABS you should have felt
the pedal shake as the ABS works. If this was the cause then there
is nothing wrong with the car, it was the road.
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I have a problem with my brakes when they are wet. I had a
good look at them this weekend and found that it's only my fronts,
and that it happens every time they get fully wet, whether that's
washing the wheels or driving in very wet conditions. Seems to
be water getting between the disk and pad causing the brakes not
to work until you've "pumped" a few times and removed it. I also
noticed that the front disks are slightly grooved but not too
bad, and it's had some green performance pads fitted in Japan.
Could the grooves be allowing the water between disk and pad
to cause this problem? Would changing pads help as these are a
total unknown at the moment? (4/00)
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| I have recently installed some new pads, (at a Mazda dealer) and
up to now I haven't had any reoccurrence at all, from either washing
or wet roads! (4/00) |
| You can get some grooved discs (Brembo I think) from Moss for
about 80 quid. They are a direct replacement and have grooves in
them to aid cooling and to channel the water away, allegedly. I
have them and I get direct braking response every time. You can
also get discs like these from the usual suspects (Dealer
Alt, Performance Buyers etc) (4/00) |
| The green pads you have must be too hard .. they need a good
shove to warm them up.. a change to softer pads would solve the
problem .. as it does not appear to turn up for others on OEM pads.
There will be water under any type of pad .. it just depends how
the pads bite through it .. a bit like the old Dunlop tyres verus
Bridgestone's .. the hard Dunlops last forever but do not bite in
the rain (well they do but not in the way you want :-) ..) while
the softer Bridgestone S02 bites more easily with some loss of miles
travelled. So change the pads or learn to give them a good shove
to stop... (4/00) |
| Nice article on the market for replacement brakes http://www.autoparts-online.co.uk/marketing/brakes.htm
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